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crunkyjens
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| In my opinion I am a very firm believer in an "eye for an eye." If you kill someone, and it's been premeditated you deserve to have the same thing done to you. I am very passionate about this and believe in it 100%. I also feel that child molestors and rapists should also deserve this type of punishment. If they are in and out of the system with abusing child after child they deserve to no longer be on this earth. |
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Paddy Landau
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| crunkyjens wrote: | | In my opinion I am a very firm believer in an "eye for an eye." |
The problem is, when the "guilty" party denies doing the deed, then you do not know whether you have the right person.
I read a few years ago that fully one out seven people on death row in the USA was innocent of the crime for which he'd been found guilty. Modern DNA analysis has been used more recently to prove the innocence of several more people on death row.
That's disgusting. We're putting to death innocent people who have been "found guilty" by virtue of persuading 12 people (the jury) of their deed.
Now, who's going to take the eye of the executioner?
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hypno-therapist
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| crunkyjens wrote: | | In my opinion I am a very firm believer in an "eye for an eye." |
SO that would mean then that the human race would be wiped out...
| crunkyjens wrote: | | If you kill someone, and it's been premeditated you deserve to have the same thing done to you. |
But the death penalty is often not the 'same thing' as you put it. Its hideously cruel and inhumane.
| crunkyjens wrote: | | I am very passionate about this and believe in it 100%. I also feel that child molestors and rapists should also deserve this type of punishment. |
This is not the 'same thing' either... Are you sure that you thought you argument through??
| crunkyjens wrote: | | If they are in and out of the system with abusing child after child they deserve to no longer be on this earth. |
Why? |
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brandon05
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| Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| With the DNA if it is used in a case and the guilty person is the one on death row then do you think it is a just punishment? Just curious to know your thoughts on it. Thanks |
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hypno-therapist
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| brandon05 wrote: | | With the DNA if it is used in a case and the guilty person is the one on death row then do you think it is a just punishment? Just curious to know your thoughts on it. Thanks |
hmm... What are your thoughts Brandon.
I am 100% against the death penalty for any reason.
I so glad that the UK lead by example along with Europe and have this as part of our history and not part of our current system.
Its also great to see more and more States in the USA dropping this cruel and barbaric form of torture. |
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Paddy Landau
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| hypno-therapist wrote: | | Its also great to see more and more States in the USA dropping this cruel and barbaric form of torture. |
Which is the greater torture: A quick and painless death, or sitting in a harsh gaol surrounded by bullies for the rest of your life?
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hypno-therapist
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Paddy Landau wrote: | | Which is the greater torture: A quick and painless death, or sitting in a harsh gaol surrounded by bullies for the rest of your life? |
A quick and painless death? Yeah right... Take a look at some of the cases on death row and some of the many botched executions and then try saying its a quick and painless death.
You should find it difficult to do. |
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beams
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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I understand the whole an eye for an eye bit. And I also understand that waiting for the day of your execution is every bit of torture as sitting your whole life inside a small room full of bullies.
However, we should think that prisons were initially made not to hold prisoners. But to hold people who did something wrong. Penitentiary is another word for prison, it came from the word penitence. Penitence, meaning regretting what you did wrong.
If we kill these people, why else would we call the place a penitentiary? When we do not give them a chance to repent. People who commit a crime can change too, just like those outside the prison walls.
Plus, I agree with Paddy. The executioner who kills those people, shouldn't he pay too? This counter argument may be too simple for this topic. But it's true. A person killed someone and has been found guilty. Why should the executioner bear a mortal sin because of a murderer? |
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hypno-therapist
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| An eye for an eye, and soon the whole world is blind. ~ Mahatma Gandhi |
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