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Paul Starter Member

Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 1
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: EFT is a scam? |
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Hi
Overall EFT is a scam? It is another complete pseudoscience that sells well but is a hodgepodge of various techniques and nonsense theory. As with all with pseudosciences' EFT has to rely on hype and grandiouse claims (or lies). All one needs to do is look at the peer reviewed scientific evidence to see that the emperor has got no clothes on.
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Paddy Landau Site Moderator

Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 490 Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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It is interesting that EFT does seem to work, not in every case but in many cases (true of all therapies).
Yet the research (so far) fails to show any correlation between its success and its claimed reason for working.
So, what's going on?
Well, firstly, EFT requires the use of NLP or NLP-style wording (Gary Craig emphasises this many times, and advanced EFT includes certain basic NLP techniques). This implies that "pure" EFT is unlikely to have a high success rate.
Secondly, I have read much discussion of EFT, and -- so far -- it seems that EFT works either as a type of rapid self-hypnosis or as a type of change of anchoring or perception (NLP-style). Further, there may be an aspect of placebo (placebo appears to play an important part in many therapies, even including standard GP practice).
The jury is still open on this.
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beams Starter Member

Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Posts: 55
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Honestly, I have never heard of EFT and Energy Psychology. Is this a new branch of Psychology that is still in the infant stage? How exactly does EFT work? |
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Paul Hastings Starter Member

Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 86 Location: Warwickshire
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Paddy is correct EFT does require an understanding and working knowledge of hypnosis and NLP to get the best results.
It is far more complex than usually told even up to advanced practitioner level.
I was with a client yesterday who is training to be a doctor and he uses EFT, he discovered it because one of his lectures advised him to us it and it is something that many doctors according to my client are no researching.
Ok lets look at what happens when someone does emotional freedom therapy.
Imagine I have a client with a fear of cats.
First access the state and give it a scale. say 8
So while in my living room you can get frightened of cats yet no cat is in the room.
You have generated the fear and if you can feel it for real and no cat is around . How did you do that?
Well you ether entered a hypnotic trance, by passed your critical factor or are hallucinating. All the same thing really. Ether way you have induced chemical changes in your brain that you physically feel and believe to be real, or at least your subconscious control mind does.
As I use other methods as well I now point out that you could also feel amazing for no reason. Think about it.
Then we get the sore spot rubbed the neurovasculers.
These change our brain chemistry and begin to pull us out of a stress response and lower the intensity of the emotion by directing blood back in to the frontal cortex of our brain and allowing the return of higher brain function.
The client then taps or hits the points. They are points used in acupuncture and often work. The energy side I will stay out of for the moment.
As the client taps they repeat the set up phrase.
Even as I (whatever) I love except and appreciate my self and forgive my self for however I may have contributed to this old problem.
Look at what is happening. In the past they had a limited range of behaviors and responses while in this state. Now while accessing it they are breathing differently. Physically doing something different. Feeling usually very silly and changing there internal dialogue.
You have changed a whole range of sub modalities changed there physiology and there brain chemistry. If we went in to NLP we have done a lot. Also used embedded commands and a few other things.
There is very little chance that after all this they can honestly say they feel the same.
If you also toss in a few other tricks you have preformed a miracle.
I use EFT on all my clients and teach them to do the routine on them selves.
I also use it each day. |
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hypno-therapist Site Moderator

Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 883 Location: Witney UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: Re: EFT is a scam? |
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| Paul wrote: | Hi
Overall EFT is a scam? It is another complete pseudoscience that sells well but is a hodgepodge of various techniques and nonsense theory. As with all with pseudosciences' EFT has to rely on hype and grandiouse claims (or lies). All one needs to do is look at the peer reviewed scientific evidence to see that the emperor has got no clothes on.
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Why do you ask Paul? |
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Paul Hastings Starter Member

Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 86 Location: Warwickshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: It may all be Bull. |
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You may be right. However I stand by my experiences and the results I have achieved whilst allowing for my current understanding.
EFT may well include a lot of placebo effect If you check out Ben Goldacre latest book Bad Science and Bruce Lipton Biology of Belief. You may discover that that is ok as long as our clients get results.
Many medical results are achieved from the clients belief systems.
Some people say the same about hypnosis and NLP. We could say
Overall hypnosis and NLP is a scam? It is another complete pseudoscience that sells well but is a hodgepodge of various techniques and nonsense theory. As with all with pseudosciences' EFT has to rely on hype and grandiouse claims (or lies). All one needs to do is look at the peer reviewed scientific evidence to see that the emperor has got no clothes on.
I choose to believe different.
(but it is only a belief)
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hypno-therapist Site Moderator

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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Paul,
Hope you are well...
I was actually asking the other Paul - the one that posed the original question..  |
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Brandbla8 Starter Member

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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Nothing will work if you have it set in your mind it will not. I have found this to be true in so many cases. If the mind set is in the negative, then it is likely nothing will do the trick. |
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