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Mario
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:31 am    Post subject: benefit a client?
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hypno-therapist wrote:
Oh my...

I could see how that works... Mario, how could we use the same pattern in other senarios - for instance, to benefit a client?


Good question,

I?m not equipped to answer questions regarding therapy from experience,

Instead more interested in the enhancement of passion and desire.

Boundless attraction and the unstoppable need to act upon something so powerful, only in a positive and often un-repenting way.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Introductions welcoming and also misconceptions
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Mario wrote:
lightseeker wrote:
Mario wrote:
When you ?try? things, you are already accepting that there is a possibility of failure, When you do things, you just do them.


That's going straight to my quotes to live by special memory vault here in the nether regions of mine brain. Cool


Hhhhmm,

Interesting, when do you suppose you?re about to find the light you seek?

With, me, it?s like when you?re beginning to glow inside and grow more and more attracted to the belief,

The one where you know it?s about to happen and then there?s the signal
The signal you get on the inside that lets you know
That signal that makes you convince yourself

You?re in heaven!

Very Happy


Exactly, Mario. I had that light about me when I was kid. I felt like I could do now wrong! I intend to reclaim that. Probably with the help of some of the wonderful advice of the people here in these forums Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Introductions welcoming and also misconceptions
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Exactly, Mario. I had that light about me when I was kid. I felt like I could do now wrong! I intend to reclaim that. Probably with the help of some of the wonderful advice of the people here in these forums Smile


You may be right now,
With me, it?s like when you begin to realise that energy about you long before you were a kid, before you were born.

More importantly that you have always been a light initiator,
How come I wonder,
Avoid seeking what you already have and just accept to remember it.

Influence and Persuasion, right?
I wonder, isn?t all Communication, Manipulation?
With that in mind, you can begin to Influence yourself, Persuade and Speed Seduce life.

Isn?t LIFE the exquisite experience of seduction, seducing and being seduced?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Direct and Indirect Communication
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When you?re influencing and persuading someone, you can use indirect compliments to brake-the-ice, so to speak. Below is an example:

Notice something about the individual?s clothing or jewellery that you may be interested in, then approach the subject.

You: ?Hello, forgive me for intruding, it?s just that, it?s an amazing bracelet, where did you get that?? (show real honest enthusiasm and curiosity about what you're saying)

The Subject: ?Oh thank you, it was a gift? OR ?I saw it in Paris and I just had to have it? ?

What ever the response, you can move it into the following:

You: ?That?s nice, obviously the person who would wear that, has great taste? and if seduction is your objective, you can continue with - "... or rather, even a shining example of genetic perfection"

They would more than likely laugh at the comment and this is good rapport.
The concept involves giving a compliment to the person wearing the item, in this case a bracelet. Instead of addressing the subject directly by using their name or the word ?you? - A ?Direct? compliment would be: ?You have grate taste in jewellery?

Now,
If it was transmitted directly, what do you think would have happened in the same scenario?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject:
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Hi Mario,

If it were asked directly the chances are higher for a closed return. For instance they may say 'thank-you' and then turn away. Where as with an indirect complement you are opening up the comunication that you can have with the person.

Am I right? What prize do I get? Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject:
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If it were asked directly the chances are higher for a closed return. For instance they may say 'thank-you' and then turn away. Where as with an indirect complement you are opening up the comunication that you can have with the person.


On the right path Richard,

here?s a more detailed description of the mechanics behind how it works in the mind:

Have you ever had a situation or seen this on a television show, where a person was asked by someone to do something for them and they made a mistake or forgot about it? So when they approached that person about it later, were they overly nice to them? Trying to avoid mentioning that they messed up? (Especially after they tell you that they?re so lucky that they had you around to take care of it for them)
Didn't they pickup that something was wrong and caught you out?

Direct compliments are given by sales people and the media, this activates two things, the ?financial defence mechanism? and ?lie detector? ? even if it?s not a lie, most of the time it will be conceived as one until utterly proven otherwise, because you?re not already emotionally close to them. So we have been trained to put up mental walls around direct compliments by the media and our schooling.

Indirect compliments work because the subject needs to participate mentally; they need to link the dots, even if it?s obvious, they still need to, in their mind, associate the compliment as being directed at them.

For the left brainers:
The more work person-A needs to do to get Person-B, the more attractive Person-B becomes to person-A.

When the person who receives the compliment needs to go in and associate that they are the recipient of the compliment, they can only do that by activating the mechanism in their mind that begins to do some work for the person who is giving the compliment.

Aren?t humans interesting?

Here's the paradox: The more someone does something, anything, the more they become accustomed to doing it and the more emotionally attached they become to it , even if it's negative.

Again ? here?s a nice one:
Minds notice what's different, but move towards what's familiar

You are right Richard,
hypno-therapist wrote:

you are opening up the comunication that you can have with the person.

You are giving the person an opportunity to open up and take part in your conversation.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:08 am    Post subject:
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That is quite a long and detailed response. I agree that humans are interesting. I do sometimes do mistakes and get confronted or don't get confronted.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject:
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Ha! I always make mistakes - I just put it down to being human Laughing

Mario - it's time for another bite - tell use some more... Please...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Re: Introductions welcoming and also misconceptions
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lightseeker wrote:
Mario wrote:
lightseeker wrote:
Mario wrote:
When you ?try? things, you are already accepting that there is a possibility of failure, When you do things, you just do them.


That's going straight to my quotes to live by special memory vault here in the nether regions of mine brain. Cool


Hhhhmm,

Interesting, when do you suppose you?re about to find the light you seek?

With, me, it?s like when you?re beginning to glow inside and grow more and more attracted to the belief,

The one where you know it?s about to happen and then there?s the signal
The signal you get on the inside that lets you know
That signal that makes you convince yourself

You?re in heaven!

Very Happy


Exactly, Mario. I had that light about me when I was kid. I felt like I could do now wrong! I intend to reclaim that. Probably with the help of some of the wonderful advice of the people here in these forums Smile


There is no better feeling than that.

I rememember when I was 16, I would prance through my days at school with minimal effort and stride through the halls with out a care in the world.

But in time I grew up, and along came the stresses of real life. Which is why I see a therapist every now and then.

I also saw a therapist when I was 16, mainly because I didn't do the best in school and my parents thought I was angry about something.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject:
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Ha! I always make mistakes - I just put it down to being human Laughing

Mario - it's time for another bite - tell use some more... Please...



What more would you like to know Richard?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject:
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Well Mario...

I am looking at seeing more of what you can share with us. The things that you have shared with us up until now have been extremely interesting. It is great to see just how our communication and interactions with other human beings can have such an impact and can change both individual?s course of direction in life. I am also enjoying the chance to dissect and discuss why and how such interactions occur.

So I guess what I want is ? whatever you have to offer in regards to persuasion and influence techniques.

Oh and Mario? Thanks for your posts so far as they have really added value to this forum!

Looking forward to your future posts.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject:
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Regarding what we all know;

In terms of persuasion and influence, Speed Seduction is not by any regard a new technology as you may think it is, form my learnings and practice, find it to be a structured system of what we do in life anyway, it allows us to be more aware of what it is we?re do all the time without realising?

Those who influence and persuade don't release all their knowledge and it's in the releasing of your knowledge that you begin to persuade others and yourself to do, to act, to behave in ways you would normally not,
then again;
Maybe it is you?
Just a new part of you?
That's beginning to unfold?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject:
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Spot on Mario.

Paul.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject:
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Something that is often worth doing with a women while playing is to use what we know, hypnotic language and profound rapport, often this allows us to direct the ladies subconscious mind into new areas.

Often I have also used EFT while enjoying a lady and have been able to allow her to let go of beliefs that were limiting my pleasure, this has led her to experience new found pleasure.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject:
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Hi Paul,

What beliefs are you meaning?
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