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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Persuasion, Influence and Speed Seduction!
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Hi All,

I have just spent the weekend with some great friends. Two of which are experianced in something called Speed Seduction. This lead to some very interesting conversations (as usual)!

One of the guys very kindly fixed one of my computers that had been broken for a while and I recovered some data on Persuasion and Influence that I thought that I would never see again.

What are others experiances with Persuasion and Influence or Speed Seduction?

Here is the infomation that I recovered - enjoy playing with it.

Warning ?

What you are about to learn is basic and most that read it will dismiss it as phony or not practical. If you feel like this then I urge you to just try it... When I first tried it, I felt like ?most people?, but I?m glad I went through with it! When you have it mastered, use it well and ethically, but don?t share it with anyone! The less people know about it the more successful it is!

The Story

This technique was learnt by me sometime ago from some DVD that I watched! I thought nothing of it until I needed it! I was waiting in a long queue at a posh restaurant here in Oxford. I was taking some friends out for an evening meal, but I had forgotten to book the table! The place was full and there was no chance of getting a place at that inn? Or was there? I remembered the technique that I had learnt and thought that I would give it a go! Man did it work! We not only got a table, but we got the best one! To cut a long story short ? there is not a week that goes by where I find this a benefit!

The Technique

First you need to understand that words here will be your tools! And this phrase you will want to commit to memory and use again and again! Hypnotists are well known for using embedded commands and saying things with double meanings! Well here is one phrase that you can use:

?I don?t know if you have the power or the authority, but I need a favor. Can you help me?(then give your request)?

Applying this technique when you need somebody to do something for you really helps you to get your way! Check out the next section to see why it works.

Why it works

The reason that this technique works is because you are saying so much more in the sentence than you actually think that you are. Here is a translation?

?I don?t know if you have the power or the authority?

Really means:

?Look if you can?t help me then you have neither ?power and authority?

Basically you have issued a challenge, but the receiver doesn?t see it that way. The receiver sees it as a pleasure to help you as he thinks that if he does you will believe that he has ?power and authority?.

Next:

?but I need a favor. Can you help me??

This appeals to their compassionate side. When somebody asks for a favor it?s hard to refuse! This together with the previous sentence makes for an explosive mix!

So there it is?

I encourage you to have a go and see what you get? Have fun!

Where to use it

Hear is a suggested list of where and how you can put it into practice today:

Restaurant: I start with this one because it is where I started using the technique!

Airport: Get upgraded

Sales: I?ve used it here to get my books stocked in local book stores![/b]


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:24 am    Post subject: Speed Seduction from a Student of Ross
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Hi Richard.
I do have some experience in Speed Seduction. About 10 years.
Ross Jeffries is an instructor of mine.

Speed Seduction is a very effective way to be more in control of our lives and set men free from the supplication that many AFC?s (Average Frustrated Chumps) experience with women.

However although Speed Seducers do get lade more often, and the women experience a greater degree of pleasure with us.
SS is not just about sex. The mental and emotional tools that are learnt are truly wonderful. Remember Richard Bandler used to do something similar some years ago.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject:
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Hi Paul,

It was great to see you at the weekend as always!

Does Ross Jefferies also do Speed Seduction for woman? Also Paul have you any exercises that you could post so that we can see its processes? What do you do differently to other guys?

Oh and yes - I am asking this question for the benefit of the group and not personally - I already have a stunner! Wink

Also Paul, if you get the time maybe you can explain again about the bubble thing that you were showing us in the pub before - Maybe start a new thread about it.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:45 am    Post subject: Golden Bubble
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Hi Richard
Women do use SS for business and pleasure.
I know several.

What do I do differently, well have a lot more fun and fewer emotional problems with women.

The main things to do are.
1) Energy Intent and State.
2) Beliefs.
3) Calibration

Most AFC?s are running so much pretending in there own heads they have little idea as to what is taking place in there worlds, inside or out.

EIS
You control your own energy, your intent and state in all dealings with members of the farer sex. Deciding how you want the inside of your mind to be is key to being an exquisite speed seducer, along with understanding women who do have different wiring in some ways.

Beliefs.
We do have different sets of beliefs running to most men and usually have a far greater understanding of psychology and mental techniques.

In fact the practical use of NLP is far higher in an SS guy than that I have seen in most master practitioners of NLP.

Yes you do have a stunner.


The Bubble Thing.
The Golden Bubble is a technique used to project my intent.
The first thing to master is the ability to hallucinate with your eyes open in such detail that it is real.

The bubble is a guide for my subconscious mind to follow. My conscious mind has set up the intent.
Then I expand my awareness and notice consciously what I want my unconscious to notice.

I use this technique to increase my rapport with people I chose.
There micro movements are tracked and this allows more communication to take place at a conscious and subconscious level.

I then shift my state untill I get my result.

Is any of this real. Who cares. It leads to results that I use.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject:
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Thanks for filling us in Paul! So in a nutshell, Speed Seduction is...?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:02 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Paul,

Quote:
YES


Laughing

I was asking for something like a potted history or a basic - 'what is speed seduction?' Not the result that you hear when you use it Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Speed Seduction
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Speed Seduction
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GIL BOYNE wrote:
The linking of hypnosis and "seduction" is another "misnomer" that can turn potential female clients and their lovers away from hypnotherapy.


Sure thing Gil. I posted this here in the first place through, because I know two hypnotherapists that have attended Ross' courses. one of which said that there is a lot for Hypnotherapists to learn from his teachings.

GIL BOYNE wrote:
I saw Ross Jefferies on a BBC documentary a few years ago and I almost fell out of my chair laughing at him, (he is not a comedian)


I wish I had seen it! Laughing

GIL BOYNE wrote:
Some men could not get laid in a brothel with hundred dollar bills hanging out of every pocket.
They are the ones that buy these "hot air" theories.


Umm... Maybe not so... My colleagues might not be the next male pin ups, but I can't say that they would have this type of issue in a brothel Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Speed Seduction is a Good thing
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I may have given the wrong impression os Speed Seduction in my posts.

This method of using effective communication with women ( sorry Gill it is not a "misnomer, as hypnosis and speed seduction go hand in hand).

SS is designed to allow men to be free from there social conditioning around women. To behave as gentlemen, and as men in this world.
It allows men to avoid the usual pain and emotional conflicts they usually experience with women, because they understand and respect women to a far higher level.

To allow men to control there thoughts habits and behaviours concerning women.

To allow men to understand a woman's mind and access there forth level of mind.

In effect to allow a man to know and control and direct there responses in the world.

It is not about bedding hundreds of women. Some have which also gives them greater knowledge and skill in pleasuring ladies and understanding women. This lack of knowledge about women is one of the thing many women complain to me about. A man who knows what a woman wants and needs is a far better catch.

We select women who are suitable for SS. intelligent, beautiful, exciting, women who are non neurotic.This allows us to have quality relationships.

From the women's side .
Most women I have come into contact with who have been or are around a man who uses Speed Seduction are delighted with the unique way there man treats them.

It is different to the way an AFC would be.
The relationship has a far greater depth of tenderness, passion and intimacy. generally free from the usually relationship problems.

Speed seduction is about allowing women to experience pleasure and excitement during the process, and about her feeling wonderful.

I know couples who use SS to increase there love and passion for each other and increase the love they have within there family life, allowing better communication with there family members and children.

SS has far more to offer than enjoying women beyond any thing an AFC can think about.

The skills in hypnosis ( and hypnosis is a large part of SS) cross over into every day life and allow us as hypnotists to work with greater skill with our clients.

The skills we learn in NLP (and NLP is a big part of speed seduction) allow us to be more effective in our lives.

The attitudes if accepted allow for far greater personal insight, personal pleasures and a far greater impact in the world around us, and a quality insight and understanding of people. We become better hypnotherapists.

If these techniques were taught to men and women there would be less emotional pain and far fewer divorces. The world would be happier, fewer children would suffer, and the general leavels of stress and anxiety on our planet would be reduced.

One of the concerns I here about SS is due to the power and effects we have, and some people are concerned about manipulation.( those who do not understand what it is)

Yes Speed Seduction does allow us to manipulate people to a very high level, however manipulation in my world is a good thing.

To me it means.
To handle or treat with skill. To move myself or someone else from there current state to a more beneficial one.

We do get paid to do this by our clients they are expecting and paying us to do this with skill.
They are paying us a lot of money to manipulate them as they have not the skills (yet) to do it to them selves.

So as business people and hypnotists we are responsible to master all aspects of effectively getting people to change there states and behave differently. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:49 am    Post subject:
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Hi Paul,

Thanks for the great post. Here is some questions;

1. What is an AFC? Maybe it's 'A Fellow Chap'? Confused

2. As you know I specialize in Relationship Issues, do you think that if I done the SS course that it would benefit my clients, if so what benefits could we see?

Thanks again Paul!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: AFC means Average Frustrated Chump.
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Hi
AFC means Average Frustrated Chump.
How most men go through the world.
Little knowledge, little understanding and little control of there relationships with women.

Supplicating, needy, neurotic guys who very few real women would want as a partner.
This can be changed with knowledge, practice, skill and personal power.

Yes the SS course will improve your relationships with clients and enable you to be far more effective as a hypnotist.

Benefits to you.
Understanding.
Extra skills.
Flexibility.
Agility.
Greater Income.

Benefits to your clients.
Deeper understanding on your part
Less time spent in therapy. As you know I see clients 3 times. If needed.
More powerful profound changes in there lives.
Greater Clarity.
More Fun during change work.
Faster results.
Saves them money.
Time.
Pain
Effort.
They get a guarantee.

This is a fast response as I have a client due any second.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject: For the fun of it.
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For the fun of it.

The more adventures of you may choose to play with the following.

I have used this often, it is old however it gets results, if you have lined up your own energy, intent, and state.

Approach a lovely woman, smile and ask.
? If I wanted to meet you and you want to know me. What would I say?

Have fun.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject:
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Hi Paul and All!

Great posts! This is really turning into a great thread...

Please can you elaborate on the conections between Speed Seduction and Hypnosis - Hypnotherapy?

I'm really enjoying your posts and finding them very informative!

Also - what are the other members thoughts on this?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Passion! Anyone? Speed Seduction or Speed Analysis
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Okay to the critics,

Applause to the sceptics,

And exquisite pleasure to the Speed Seducers and even more so, to those within the hearing range of the Speed seducer?s words when using Speed Seduction correctly.

Up until now I?ve been reading about ?Speed Seduction technique? and ?Speed Seduction knowledge? and how ?powerful? and quick treatment can be and some dissection of phrases and words?

To those who have any doubt of the power, effectiveness and guaranteed results of Speed Seduction, you possibly haven?t yet introduced your wife or girlfriend to Ross Jeffries! Or others, who practice SS effectively?

With me, it?s like when you?re paying attention for a change, to the world and not just a therapy,
Not just another technique, model, tool or method.
Not just another reason to slander seduction or purposefully defame someone due to possible unawareness of Speed Seduction and women in general.

Speed Seduction might not be in the realm of acceptance and appreciation of powerful hypnotic and linguistic skill for some, fail to see the good?

?and I find it strange how that can be possible by some who are world renowned for their skills of awareness. Interesting don't you think?

Laugh off someone who has given thousands and their partners and friends, glorious and in some cases; unmatched joy, happiness and pleasure in constant abundance?

Something amiss here?

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Where is the Passion?

I agree with Paul, not only is Hypnosis and NLP a fundamental part, of the very basis of Speed Seduction?s existence;
Speed Seduction could very well be the catalyst to developing a number of new ways to brake free of the
?no seduction?
or
?Seduction has nothing to do with Hypnosis? COMFORT ZONE that I have found many in Hypnotherapy to be limited by.

Further more; and more to the point.

Speed Seduction has many tentacles, not revealing all the details as I?m not the one who?s teaching SS, I will share one older model:

It?s not about the Seducer,
It?s about the seduced.

The model has two recipes,

Firstly comfort and connection, powerful instant rapport. What is the subject?s recipe for feeling that towards another human being?

Secondly, I?m sure you understand that if you know someone?s recipe for feeling aroused to the point losing all reasoning, then attach(Anchor) those feelings of arousal to you, fire them off in intervals when ever you?re in that person?s presence(Fractionation), accelerate them beyond what that person has ever experienced before?(Patterns) hhmm I wonder?

Example:
Those untapped areas of a woman?s mind, the one she thinks Wink will never come true,
So she?s settled for less.
It?s the place she remembers when she was young and always vividly dreamed of,
her night in shinning armour who came to her rescue?
When the Speed Seducer knows how to awaken that sleeping dragon, make it real, direct it and allow you to feel deserving and inevitably succumbing to what it is you cannot deny yourself?

I guess the imagination, anchoring, fractionation, patterns and focussed altered states of the mind that can be major contributors to just one effective Speed Seduction model,
NHAAA, it?s not Hypnosis or NLP.

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